“By golly, I agree with them” says mayor Kopczick, referring to the desire of Channahon residents to have access to healthcare in their town, and not have to travel to Morris or Joliet.
Nonetheless, Dickie has unilaterally decided that the City of Morris is opposed to this new facility - even though the issue was never discussed or voted on in a city council meeting.
Shouldn't area residents have the choice of where to obtain their healthcare? Shouldn't doctors and medical personnel have the choice of where to work? Some are charging that Morris Hospital is exagerating the detrimental potential of the new facility, given the area's rapid population growth. And why is it OK for Morris to have an orthopedic surgical center, but not Channahon?
This new facility may result in more options, better service and better prices. By Golly.
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Amen!!!
I really don't understand it.
King Richard the Pompous issues an edict!
Noble King Richard, as a resident of Minooka, stay out of my right to healthcare locally.
Maybe if Dickie paid Scooter another $250,000 he could stop the surgicenter.
Things might be different if the Surgicenter made a campaign contribution.
How caring is Morris Hospital. My family was in a car accident and prior to their discharge from the hospital leins were filed against them. We are insured and we work for the hospital. What compassion
so kopczick is against health care choices
Doctor's Lounge has more info and insight into this. You won't get it from MDH or radio. Without these blogs, people wouldn't know what really goes on around here.
In genral, those in power with the media in their pocket woe the internet.
thanks for the attention on this topic. The surgicenter shall be a first class facility, second to none. Similar ones associated with Dr. Pliura, in Bloomington, for example, have incredibly high patient satisfaction statistics. The patients love the experience. And usually more economical. Don't get me wrong, Sledge--Morris Hospital is a very good place, and it's nurses and doctors make it that way. We just know we can do better.
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I bet Dick's handlers cringe every time he opens his mouth.
Surgicenter: high patient satisfaction for those who can afford it! Ask the people who are not getting good care anymore at the hospital which is the only thing open at 3:00 AM. Without the patients that the surgical care center takes, the hospital won't be able to provide good care to everyone else. And if the surgeon has a choice of where to work: surgical center (better paying patients, money in their own pockets) vs hospital (poor reimbursement, no money in it for them) it won't take long for the surgeons to drop off the call lists, and good luck getting a surgeon at 3:00 am. Soon if you need care at 3:00 am you are headed to Silver Cross to wait 6 hours. This is the british model, private hospitals for those that can afford it, public hospitals for the rest of us, where you might wind up "admitted" to what used to be a shower stall.
You need to show side buy side all the people that donate to Dick's fund and do business with the city of Morris would be a eye opener for some.
The state web site shows that Mrs. Rezin contributed money to Kopczick's campaign.
hey 1:55 PM SURGICENTER COMPLAINER:
Unfortunately you're directing your anger at the docs, much to the glee of medicaid, medicare, HMO's, insurance company bureaucracies, administrators, etc. They're the ones consuming health care dolllars, along with the professional liability problem, leaving a fraction of what was once spent on direct benefits---care for you and your loved ones. They're the ones giggling away while you type this drivel. P.S. shouldn't you be with your family at Easter dinner at 1:55 pm instead of exposing your ignorance of the situation.
1:55 pm Easter dinner complainer----I bet you tone down your rhetoric if you bring your child in at 9 pm with acute appendicitis. If fact, we wouldn't hear a peep from you as your Morris hospital staff surgeon promptly responds to care for him, irregardless of ability to pay. And it will always stay that way. How intellectually dishonest you are.
By the way, 1:15 pm Easter, try finding an administrator between early afternoon Friday and Monday at, say 9 or 10 am. You won't. These are the people you're siding with in this "greedy doctor" smear campaign. What you'll find between these times are caring nurses and doctors--they comprise Morris Hospital, not a small handful of administrators (as they think). CAPISH????
Morris hosp., Rezin, ortho center, city approval, follow the money.
I agree with the with 7:19 MH is a wonderful place when your ill, full of very kind people, but if your child breaks a bone at any hour you stop by the er to get x-rays then your told to go vist Rezin's surgical center in the morning which is not always going to happen right away because he is so busy, which is good. Then you get more x-rays from him then the cast. which i don't think is a problem the more places for health care the better. I guess what i'm trying to say is MH is not a one stop shop.
If the new Channahon surgical center does cast or surgery on hands ect, sounds like this more competition with Rezin than Morris hospitol maybe a donation needs to be made from CSC to keep the mayor out of the papers. This seems like the mayor and Morris hospitol are being very selective in their complaining. But i could be wrong.
Hey 6:12 P.M. some of us jews with no family aren't sitting down to Easter dinner. But thanks for christianly advice.
A very close family member had surgery done at the Rezin surgical center, did a fabulous job. But i don't recall Dicky having any problem with that or the Morris hospital. What a second somebody made the right kind of donation.
to 12:18 pm Jew--- sorry. please accept apology.
6:12 pm
In the category of stupid comments, the mayor once again takes the prize. The Morris Daily Herald quotes Kopzick as saying the proposed for-profit facility is operating with an unfair advantage, “It's not competition if you're not playing the same game” the mayor is quoted as saying.
True, it is not the same game. The Morris Hospital does not have to pay taxes.
The surgical center, however, will be at a tremendous competetive disadvantage, in that it will be a for-profit entity which will pay to pay income taxes and real estate taxes.
Where are the surg center patients going to go when on that rare occasion a surgery goes bad? MH or St. Joes? Did the head of the surg center say that they do not have as strict regulations as the hospitals? I hope the defib works. Will there be blood and blood products available, just in case. Maybe it will be all new and state of the art, but I would not take my chances with myself or a family member. Oh and to the other comment about the xray, I don't think your told to go to rezins, your just assigned to go to the orthopedic's office on call. If you had a sick kid with strep you would be told to go see you pediatrician or the office for the one on call. Some people are just ignorant.
Hey there is no other ortho group except Ezin in Morris. Yes you are told to go their or out of town. All surgicenter have back up plans for transfers to inpatient care, look at the AMSURG in Joliet, Rezin's in Morris or the new one that St. Joe's is putting up.
Jeepers, Mr. Mayor, you young whipper-shappers shouldn't be taking away my doctors, gosh darnit. By golly, I should be able to go to any doc i want, dagnabbit!
How about it Scott and Dick, is it true or not? Did Dick give Scott $2,000 of city money last summer to take Scott's kid to play softball? I know you both read this blog, and a lot of people would like to hear what you have to say about this.
to sad but true --- do you really think you've discovered something here, about debrillators, blood, and inpatient hospitalization? Surgicenters are around all over the country; safely, successfully, efficiently, economically providing care. Don't you think the pro's have answered and dealt with these matters? Some research should be in order before exposing your naivete.
Jepsen, COO at hosp., has become quite the golfer on the hospital's time and dime, attending virtually all local golf outings. Giving back to the community brian?
How about Dickie and Scooter? Did $2,000 of city money go to pay for a softball trip to Alabama? Is there a cancelled check or not? Should be easy enough to find out the truth.
IRS form 990's aren't detailed enough to see how much golf and other things were "returned to the community". These items are buried as "community outreach" or some such thing. Either Lisa Madigan or interested community people can ask further.
Sledge,why do you have a link to the ILCC? I could use an adult beverage before bed.
Grundy Econ. Dev.Commision is against surgicenter. Will you be against surgcenter, GEDC, if it goes up in Grundy co. across the road (Bell rd)? Interesting question, GEDC choosing between econ development and good ol boy network......
Morris hosp has dealing with surgcneter in town, and is objecting to a needed one in another city, another county? HYPOCRITES!
haven't heard from skeptical in a while. you okay?
who should I contribute to so Channahon surgicenter loses?
I don't remember Channahon mayor Joe Cook going over to Morris to object to the Rezin surgicial center when it opened. Why does the Morris mayor think he has any business interfering with Channahon getting a surgical center? What an @sshole.
maybe Dickie could stop the surgicenter if he paid Scooter another $250,000, +softball money
Throw in the tickets to the ball game from Chamblin's, and the other events from the brew crew and tell them Scooter is bringing the firetruck to town and maybe they'll back off.
Channahon has 11,200 residents and growing. Is Dickie of Channahon overtaking Morris in size and softball money. The COO at Morris Hospital should know about Channahon since they have a decent golf course.
This surgicenter issue is not a popularity contest. The hospital can load up couple of busloads of minions at a moments notice. It's not a hosp. vs doctor issue. It's a fairness issue. Do you approve of the fact that hospital wants to restrict your choices in healthcare close to home? Do you approve of the current oligopoly where hospitals carve up the map by zip code and use your money (despite what insurance companies tell you, IT's YOUR MONEY, whether your employer or you pay for it) to squish the little guy?
If you wish to have your care at the surgicenter, at a lower cost, and with higher patient satisfaction, and done more efficiently, do you approve that a move is underway to deny you that right?
The truth will come out in due time, and it certainly is not reflected in the hospital press releases the local "media" are gobbling up. Real reasons for opposition are not necessarily altruistic or honorable. Think about it.
Strange priorities? Funny how much effort Kopczick puts into shutting down a surgical center, but there is no attempt whatsoever to shut down a "massage parlor."
It can't be shut down unless and until it is proven that something illegal is occuring. The mayor doesn't have the jurisdiction or legal precedent to just go around shutting down businesses, whether they be surgical centers or massage parlors or hot dog stands just because someone doesn't like it.
Prostitution is illegal, hot dog stands are not. If that is what is going on in town, it can and should be shut down. But apparently, the city is not willing to investigate.
just go to massage parlor and ask for "happy ending" to your massage. something illegal may happen....
Failure to deal with the massage parlor is just one of the many failings of our local government - add it to the list: landfill debacle, Channahon at our doorstep, outrageous property taxes, failing schools, schemes to enrich-your-cronies-and-relatives, etc. Oh, maybe the massage parlor operator is a campaign contributor. That would explain it.
Leave the doctoring to the doctors, leave the surgerizing to the surgeons! hospital is in almost over its head just trying to RUN A HOSPITAL. Mind your own business Morris Hospital and leave Channahon alone!
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sledge you might want to look into dist 54 school board. in the waning days of their lame duck term, they are planning to hire super expensive new superintendent, instead of waiting till after tues election. this is apparently legal but it stinks. IMHO, I think the old guard board is giving the taxpayer the finger one last time. This is reason for "closed door sessions" this week.
Maybe Dickie and Scooter can drive their firetruck over to the massage parlor and find out what is really going on.
LEAVE MY FAVORITE MASSAGE PARLOR ALONE!
Hypocrisy at hospital is amazing. hospital is cozy with surgeon group from 1 or 2 area codes away. Their track record with employed surgeons, Dr. P, Dr. K(Simon), and most recently Dr. H, all at hospital expense, has been poor. Their head surgeon will not see public aid or uninsured patients for breast care. Hospital administration has the best friends (among docs) that money can buy. you're going to have to sleep in the bed that you make, you know...
Hospital wants you to pay for the care of the guy with plenty of money for marlboros, booze, cell phone, tatoos, big screen, etc, but somehow won't take responsibility for providing for healthcare. Do you want to pay extra at the hospital? Go ahead. There are true hardship cases, and the docs care for them, but they're less than you think. 1 pack a day less of smokes and one less trip to the tavern and you've paid for your insurance.
I had my followup visit with my doctor after being treated for pneumonea. I brought my hospital bill. I got charged about $280 for a lab test called a complete metabolic panel. He told me that his cost for such a test, done in his office, is about $8.50. I'm furious! We need choices!
doctors lounge had post that summed it up. "it's a control thing". hospital is conducting a scorched earth campaign, with its employees as pawns and victimes of mental anguish.
Sledge, CMON, we both know that its one and the same. I know people that have gone there and gotten the happy endings. I hope youre not one of em lol
does that small community hospital need both a CEO and COO? General Motors does, hospital doesn't.
remember those figures that the hospital claimed,"62% loss,blah,blah,blah,blah". Let's see if this story unravels in the next few months.
I support Morris Hospital
- Imus
I am happy we have local healthcare like Morris Hospital. I am thankful that they employ many local residents. I also know that they do some good things, but what I don't agree is that they should control business like this. We live in America here and that is why there is so much unrest amongst the people. nationwide we are angry with Bush about the war and his other follys, at the State we don't really know if Rod has done a damn thing for us but there wasnt any other choice. Locally we overthrew the Republican County Board and hopefully sent a message there. And on a city level the people are pissed. Just read the papers about the aldermen or Mayor races like in Coal City, people are angry with the way things are bring handled and they are going to vote.
You don't have to go to the surgicenter. Don't you want the choice, though?
The deal in Coal City does not require the certificate of need that is needed in Channahon due to the type of facility that is being planned. Where’s your messiah now Morris since Joe Cook will not come to bat for you in Coal City . Quality health care thrives on competition and the adage that quality will prevail is the motto, is the standard to live by. Yes if the venture in Coal City is a project by Riverside in Kankakee no tax base will be generated in Coal City . I guess Coal City does not require additional income sources. What were the people at Morris Hospital, Coal City and Morris thinking? I wonder if the fire chief knows how to drive to Kankakee. Better get the bus started to drive to Coal City from Morris.
Morris mayor will hop on the fire truck and be right over!
Capitalism, free and open markets, its all a bunch of bull. It does not belong in these United States. Where is Karl Marx at when you really need him?
don't stop buy clayton's on the way.
Sledge, I think that a reasonable person can conclude that the hospital's arguments ring hollow. The charitable angle is suspect, the "we'll go under" angle is bull. They have no right to a monopoly, and indeed competition is good, resulting in greater efficiency, improved quality, less cost. Their figures are sloppy at best, lies at worst. I encourage perusal of www.ahd.com prior to reading another Voice of the People MDH by a hospital minion. Thanks.
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